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Beast outplayed VP and should have won.

MNS outplayed VR, could have been a 3-4 goal differential.

You watch too much live barn and your hate of Vaughan is showing.

Actually VP is civilized. They're well respected.
VR is full of the wild ones- watched too much jersey shore growing up.

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

This is all fair but the top MNS kids are much better than anyone on VR. No C as good as 10 or 19. No D as good as 4 or 9 or 15.

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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:55 pm What were the scores today? I’m guessing the beast lost since there hasn’t been any posts?

Beast outplayed VP and should have won.

MNS outplayed VR, could have been a 3-4 goal differential.

You watch too much live barn and your hate of Vaughan is showing.

Actually VP is civilized. They're well respected.
VR is full of the wild ones- watched too much jersey shore growing up.

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:43 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:15 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:50 pm

You watch too much live barn and your hate of Vaughan is showing.

Actually VP is civilized. They're well respected.
VR is full of the wild ones- watched too much jersey shore growing up.

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

This is all fair but the top MNS kids are much better than anyone on VR. No C as good as 10 or 19. No D as good as 4 or 9 or 15.

sure ur better u use ineligible players from klvr. good for u .

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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:15 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:50 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:33 pm

Beast outplayed VP and should have won.

MNS outplayed VR, could have been a 3-4 goal differential.

You watch too much live barn and your hate of Vaughan is showing.

Actually VP is civilized. They're well respected.
VR is full of the wild ones- watched too much jersey shore growing up.

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

VR is a good little team that has improved a lot. Respect for that.

They lack a true star either up front or on defence. All around they are strong but that’s why they play close to equal ice! There is nobody who really should play more because they aren’t high-end.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:16 pm Heard the wh skate on the weekend was 10/10

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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:15 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:50 pm

You watch too much live barn and your hate of Vaughan is showing.

Actually VP is civilized. They're well respected.
VR is full of the wild ones- watched too much jersey shore growing up.

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

VR is a good little team that has improved a lot. Respect for that.

They lack a true star either up front or on defence. All around they are strong but that’s why they play close to equal ice! There is nobody who really should play more because they aren’t high-end.

VR definately plays equal ice. Watch any game and you will see their weakest kids on both PP and PK as well. They may not have a 'true star' as you put it, but they do have kids who skill level is far below the average on the team on both F and D. Theyd win more if those kids sat more...

I respect that they dont emphasize winning at the cost of development.

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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:21 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:13 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:15 am

Actually VP is civilized. They're well respected.
VR is full of the wild ones- watched too much jersey shore growing up.

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

VR is a good little team that has improved a lot. Respect for that.

They lack a true star either up front or on defence. All around they are strong but that’s why they play close to equal ice! There is nobody who really should play more because they aren’t high-end.

VR definately plays equal ice. Watch any game and you will see their weakest kids on both PP and PK as well. They may not have a 'true star' as you put it, but they do have kids who skill level is far below the average on the team on both F and D. Theyd win more if those kids sat more...

I respect that they dont emphasize winning at the cost of development.

This argument again that makes no sense every time but people keep saying it.

If you are “far below average” on a team that isn’t even a top 3 team you should probably be in A. It’s not just VR, MNS has 3-4 of these at least.

Coaches responsibility to cut them but parents responsibility to take them to play where they could realistically develop !

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:16 pm Heard the wh skate on the weekend was 10/10

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:49 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:28 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:21 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:13 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:30 am

Second this.

Never a problem with the VP parents, before during or after the game.

VR different story and goes to the coaching too.

What's wrong with VR coaches or parents? Their parents differ from others only by being slightly louder. But what else would you expect from a group that is 95% Italian? That said, unlike some other teams I won’t name, I haven’t seen drunk fathers or loud, offensive mothers yelling at referees or opposing teams.
Comparing VR to MNS (whose parents are also very nice), VR's players are stronger on average, while the top kids on both teams are of similar skill. MNS has the better goalie. Key difference is that VR gives all players ice time. I’ve never noticed them prioritizing anyone, whereas MNS plays to win, meaning some kids get significantly more ice time than others. This approach is good for the league in general, as it raises the level of competition, helps secure victories for MNS when top players are not absent, but isn’t great for overall development or team depth.
Despite being a skilled team, VR seems to lack a winning mentality or self-confidence. If the coaches address this issue or if it naturally corrects itself the team will rise higher in the standings.

VR is a good little team that has improved a lot. Respect for that.

They lack a true star either up front or on defence. All around they are strong but that’s why they play close to equal ice! There is nobody who really should play more because they aren’t high-end.

VR definately plays equal ice. Watch any game and you will see their weakest kids on both PP and PK as well. They may not have a 'true star' as you put it, but they do have kids who skill level is far below the average on the team on both F and D. Theyd win more if those kids sat more...

I respect that they dont emphasize winning at the cost of development.

This argument again that makes no sense every time but people keep saying it.

If you are “far below average” on a team that isn’t even a top 3 team you should probably be in A. It’s not just VR, MNS has 3-4 of these at least.

Coaches responsibility to cut them but parents responsibility to take them to play where they could realistically develop !

I fully agree, but we're at the end of the year. Some kids have not developed as well as others, which has left them behind. Coaches choose these kids to be part of team likely thinking they would improve more then they did. So until year is over they still deserve to play rather fairly, until the last 5 minutes or so. Then when season is over, yes get cut.