Open borders coming in Ontario

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https://listowelminorhockey.ca/Articles ... AST_SURGE/

7 orgs just came together to form a single A center, not even AAA/AA. That's insane, just remove the borders and let those kids go to real A centers.
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Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:47 pm The OHF has no control over residential boundaries, it is a decision made by the individual leagues. I have no idea what the GTHL may be planning, but I can all but guarantee that OMHA will not be eliminating residential boundaries this coming season. They are currently doing everything they can to level the playing field and have as equal competition as they can and removing boundaries would go against everything they have been working on for the past number of years. Just my opinion.
That is not how it works. The OHF is the parent organization for the OMHA. If they say the borders are open they have to open them. If they refuse families will just appeal to the OHF and then they will grant the leave.
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Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:08 pm https://listowelminorhockey.ca/Articles ... AST_SURGE/

7 orgs just came together to form a single A center, not even AAA/AA. That's insane, just remove the borders and let those kids go to real A centers.
The closest A centers to these towns are what Owen Sound, Elmira and Stratford? That’s a lot of driving so who’s to say this center wouldn’t be competitive?
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Center wellington as well. None of these other A centers are even in the same league, gonna be some big travel even just for practice and home games when the kids that live 15 mins from a fully functional A center already are forced here.

This is where closed and restricted borders is clearly not in the best interest of the kids and families.
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They are merging to force all the kids back into their centers. All the NRPs in those adjacent A centers are regionally bound to return now and forced to play this amalgamated location. Played U12-16 A as an NRP, too bad you come 'home' now.
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Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:55 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:47 pm The OHF has no control over residential boundaries, it is a decision made by the individual leagues. I have no idea what the GTHL may be planning, but I can all but guarantee that OMHA will not be eliminating residential boundaries this coming season. They are currently doing everything they can to level the playing field and have as equal competition as they can and removing boundaries would go against everything they have been working on for the past number of years. Just my opinion.
That is not how it works. The OHF is the parent organization for the OMHA. If they say the borders are open they have to open them. If they refuse families will just appeal to the OHF and then they will grant the leave.
Equal competition? They force AA centres to field their second team in A even though they get destroyed every year. Have a look at Lakeshore A standings and there are basically winless (or 1-2 win) teams at every age group. Competitive balance is a joke and they need to fix it or we will lose a lot of kids to other sports.
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Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:47 pm The OHF has no control over residential boundaries, it is a decision made by the individual leagues. I have no idea what the GTHL may be planning, but I can all but guarantee that OMHA will not be eliminating residential boundaries this coming season. They are currently doing everything they can to level the playing field and have as equal competition as they can and removing boundaries would go against everything they have been working on for the past number of years. Just my opinion.
Man you have no idea how it works do you. You should not be posting anything on here, talk about misinformation.
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Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:55 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:47 pm The OHF has no control over residential boundaries, it is a decision made by the individual leagues. I have no idea what the GTHL may be planning, but I can all but guarantee that OMHA will not be eliminating residential boundaries this coming season. They are currently doing everything they can to level the playing field and have as equal competition as they can and removing boundaries would go against everything they have been working on for the past number of years. Just my opinion.
That is not how it works. The OHF is the parent organization for the OMHA. If they say the borders are open they have to open them. If they refuse families will just appeal to the OHF and then they will grant the leave.
The OHF’s implementation of open borders across Ontario represents a bold step towards increasing player mobility and potentially enhancing the competitive landscape of youth hockey in the province. While the policy offers numerous benefits, including greater opportunities for player development and increased competition, it also presents challenges that need to be carefully managed


https://hockeyneeds.com/ontario-hockey- ... n-borders/
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Guest wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:08 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:47 pm The OHF has no control over residential boundaries, it is a decision made by the individual leagues. I have no idea what the GTHL may be planning, but I can all but guarantee that OMHA will not be eliminating residential boundaries this coming season. They are currently doing everything they can to level the playing field and have as equal competition as they can and removing boundaries would go against everything they have been working on for the past number of years. Just my opinion.
Man you have no idea how it works do you. You should not be posting anything on here, talk about misinformation.
I have a very good idea as to how it works as I have been involved on the executive side of minor hockey for many years. I have made an attempt to dumb down my original post so maybe you will understand it better. And if you still believe I am wrong in what I say, please tell everyone how it actually works.
The OHF can make recommendations which can then become a motion put forth by the individual leagues (OMHA, GTHL, Alliance, etc). Those motions are voted on by the membership of those leagues (minor hockey associations) during the league AGM's in the summer, and if passed they then come into effect for the following season. So for boarders to be open for the 2025-2026 season, this would have had to be voted on and passed last summer which it was not. The only way would be to hold all tryouts in the fall after the AGM and I don't believe anyone wants to do that. OHF does not have the dictatorship powers to make this happen. I am not saying I am opposed or in favor of open boards, just explaining the process.
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Guest wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:26 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:08 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:47 pm The OHF has no control over residential boundaries, it is a decision made by the individual leagues. I have no idea what the GTHL may be planning, but I can all but guarantee that OMHA will not be eliminating residential boundaries this coming season. They are currently doing everything they can to level the playing field and have as equal competition as they can and removing boundaries would go against everything they have been working on for the past number of years. Just my opinion.
Man you have no idea how it works do you. You should not be posting anything on here, talk about misinformation.
I have a very good idea as to how it works as I have been involved on the executive side of minor hockey for many years. I have made an attempt to dumb down my original post so maybe you will understand it better. And if you still believe I am wrong in what I say, please tell everyone how it actually works.
The OHF can make recommendations which can then become a motion put forth by the individual leagues (OMHA, GTHL, Alliance, etc). Those motions are voted on by the membership of those leagues (minor hockey associations) during the league AGM's in the summer, and if passed they then come into effect for the following season. So for boarders to be open for the 2025-2026 season, this would have had to be voted on and passed last summer which it was not. The only way would be to hold all tryouts in the fall after the AGM and I don't believe anyone wants to do that. OHF does not have the dictatorship powers to make this happen. I am not saying I am opposed or in favor of open boards, just explaining the process.
OHF is made up from representatives from each league with equal voting powers (OMHA, GTHL, Alliance, etc). Whatever they vote will be implemented. I just don't believe the timeline of it being rolled out for next season. OHF sees what is going on with the outlaw leagues at the younger age groups, if they don't adapt, the numbers of kids leaving for outlaw leagues will just keep growing like it has been. The outlaw leagues will keep pushing once they have a strong foothold. People want flexibility, and the msg is loud and clear.
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