OHF Opening borders??

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Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:17 am
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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:50 pm Requesting releases is the biggest joke in minor hockey. they never get accepted and thats why kids fake address changes or divorces become they have no other way to get their kids out of their centre or into the G
If they don’t sign you by a certain date, a AAA centre has to grant a release. It is only at AA and below that your kid is “owned” and has to be “released” from their centre. This has to end. If a kid needs a change of scenery because they live in the coach’s dog house, let them go. AA, A and B centres tend to be a lot closer together geographically but the boards would never grant a release to play in another town, that is 15 minutes away… So many power-tripping volunteers on those boards.
That's it right there, power tripping volunteers and their cronies. Minor hockey is riddled with them, and it'll never stop. Can't even be honest on coaches reviews, because our association shows the coaches what is said, and everyone is afraid to speak up and have it taken out on their kid.
1. Send anonymous feedback
2. Volunteers who powertrip are the joke of the organization and once they no longer volunteer they’ll see that everyone really hated them all along
3. OHF needed to be more specific in their release, or say nothing. They are causing gossip and speculation and the hockey world does not need more of that
Point 3....

I agree they have opened themselves up for the wild west of opinions at this point, but who cares? That stuff happens no matter what. I think they are grasping at straws right now. Love or hate KSL, the fact it exists has put pressure on OHF to fix their long standing BS policies.
It’s simple as this. KSL already has all the best kids in AAA or AA in their programs up until U9. The easiest sale is the one that you’ve already made.

The T1 programs are stronger than any average AAA by far. It is not inconceivable that the KSL continues into U10 and beyond at some point. If you think the OHF doesn’t see this well then you’re sorely mistaken.

Competition improves offering for everyone.
Yup! Agreed. Its all about options and competition.

I do think that if OHF make changes, it could easily get back at least a 50/50 market share of the best kids. People LIKE the convenience of a home centre, etc.

However, until you fix half ice hockey, open boarders, etc... it won't happen.

Once a kid enters U7 KSL (in some cases, they have U6 and U5 programs too) they are likely going to stay there unless something happens. So, the quicker OHF gets on this stuff the better it will be for them. If they drag their feet and KSL starts a U10 program - they are toast...
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Everything evolves ... there is no reason why the OHF can't evolve as well... several centers have done a 3 year pilot program on combining 2 AAA teams..... there is no reason why this can't been done as well.
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Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:35 am Everything evolves ... there is no reason why the OHF can't evolve as well... several centers have done a 3 year pilot program on combining 2 AAA teams..... there is no reason why this can't been done as well.
yeah, but OHF is SLOW to evolve, and their decisions are often misguided and end up hurting them.

they EVOLVED into half ice hockey for kids with no rules.
they EVOLVED into combining AAA centres, when really they should have just made open boarders so teams all end up with quality players.
they EVOLVED into taking hitting away until kids are 200lbs and flying at each other at 100mph - instead of them learning how to do it safely when they are younger and have far less risk

Decisions are bad. Because of bad leadership that is old and stale. They lost their BIGGEST money making ages because of it. There are more numbers of kids playing hockey at U6--> U9 then any other age groups because kids are trying it, playing house league, playing select, playing MD, etc.

What's next? They lose their strangle hold on the pathway to the OHL by having another, better, private league start up like the KSL taking over U10 and up hockey?

This is a perfect example of what happens when someone thinks they have a monopoly, they get stagnate and make decisions they think are best for them instead of what's best for the people paying for the product.
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Maybe this will be the end of the communistic approach to hockey in Ontario.

Let families choose what they want to do. If you want to drive 100's of km's to practice, go nuts. If we have 3 super teams in all of Ontario, who cares? Most families want their kids to play close to home and with their friends and have fun. If it's not working for your family then you should have a choice, and If you're a crazy parent and want to spend millions of dollars and countless hours to get your kid to the pros have fun. I know my organization will be better when the parents of the future hall-of-famers go and play with the rest of the province's soon-to-be first-round picks.
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Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:34 pm Maybe this will be the end of the communistic approach to hockey in Ontario.

Let families choose what they want to do. If you want to drive 100's of km's to practice, go nuts. If we have 3 super teams in all of Ontario, who cares? Most families want their kids to play close to home and with their friends and have fun. If it's not working for your family then you should have a choice, and If you're a crazy parent and want to spend millions of dollars and countless hours to get your kid to the pros have fun. I know my organization will be better when the parents of the future hall-of-famers go and play with the rest of the province's soon-to-be first-round picks.
Yup, agreed.

Super teams happen no matter what. Even with their rules that just get circumvented anyways. So, you might as well open it up completely so kids can get of bad situations. Arguably you will have LESS super teams because more team will have access to more players in general.
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If they open the borders I sure hope they work with GTHL to open those borders as well.

Allow full movement in/out of GTHL & OMHA at the AAA level. Basically allow anyone to play where they can land a spot they like.

A true, full, open border experience allows for centres to draw players from anywhere, thus making ORG's that focus on what players want successful for that player. Those that don't meet their clients expectation will disappear.

AA & A - I liked the suggestion of being able to pick from the 3 local centres. This picks on my comments from last year on how OMHA needs to truly make zones, those zones are the AAA level. And each zone has several AA & A centres within it. So you draw your AAA players for many AA/A centres. Then allow the free movement within those AA/A centres for that zone.

Frankly I think the BB level should be tied to a home center, and if you don't make it, you play HL.

Larger zones is the way forward for the OMHA. Many historical smaller ORG are completely dead, or dieng. They are only holding on by drawing cuts from other centres (think the new B level centres). If some of these small centres went away what does it really hurt? The better players can find spots in the larger zones A teams, and the small centres just offer HL, and end the B level madness.
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Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:40 pm If they open the borders I sure hope they work with GTHL to open those borders as well.

Allow full movement in/out of GTHL & OMHA at the AAA level. Basically allow anyone to play where they can land a spot they like.

A true, full, open border experience allows for centres to draw players from anywhere, thus making ORG's that focus on what players want successful for that player. Those that don't meet their clients expectation will disappear.

AA & A - I liked the suggestion of being able to pick from the 3 local centres. This picks on my comments from last year on how OMHA needs to truly make zones, those zones are the AAA level. And each zone has several AA & A centres within it. So you draw your AAA players for many AA/A centres. Then allow the free movement within those AA/A centres for that zone.

Frankly I think the BB level should be tied to a home center, and if you don't make it, you play HL.

Larger zones is the way forward for the OMHA. Many historical smaller ORG are completely dead, or dieng. They are only holding on by drawing cuts from other centres (think the new B level centres). If some of these small centres went away what does it really hurt? The better players can find spots in the larger zones A teams, and the small centres just offer HL, and end the B level madness.

for your last point, IF players can go to other larger centers to play the level of hockey they want - then I am ALL for closing down some of the redundant, dying centers.

HL has no boarders....why does BB need to?
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Locking kids in at any level is wrong in a free society. There is zero reason for it. It's my money and my time, I should be allowed to spend it how I see fit.
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Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:51 pm Locking kids in at any level is wrong in a free society. There is zero reason for it. It's my money and my time, I should be allowed to spend it how I see fit.
Yup...

and if OHF and HC don't get this right (and quick) KSL is nipping at their heels to create U10 and upwards...
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Seriously though... does anyone have a good source, are we going to see some changes for the 2025/26 season?
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