I have always heard that kids learn much more from practices than games. Play with the best players you can on the best team you can. For most players this will still mean playing for mid pack teams because they can't make top teams and thats ok you do what you can. There are definitely no top players in our league who choose to play for mid pack teams so I'm sure everyone knows this already. But for the exceptional players learning how to play with other top players and being exposed to winning culture is extremely valuable. It's no secret that the top teams also have the best coaching so that is also huge for development. If your kid plays on a mid pack team where he is the best or one of the better players and can do whatever he wants and learns to expect the puck at all times then those kids often get lost and confused when they do get the chance to play with equal or better players.Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:41 am so what's better for your kid?
Playing 8 minutes a game, no special teams, on the third line of a winning team or playing 20 minutes a game, 1st PP, 1st PK and end of game situations on a mid-pack team?
I can see the merits of both.
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that is a good point anyone who saw AC JH MS CN from JRC play at the throne last year knows they completely sucked ass. got hidden by playing around other good players on jrc
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I agree that coaching is the most important thing for kids and their development.Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:54 am Coaching is most important ice time is second most
I have coached kids in the past that excelled, made higher level teams and struggled because their new coach couldn't tap in to what made them successful under me.
Next for me would be practice. How you practice is how you play and again it does go back to coaching. Having good practices helps players in games. My philosophy is that in warm ups, you work on your skills (skating, shooting, passing, etc) and then your drills should be set up so that they mimic what kids would see in a game. I have found this to be very successful. So many times, I see coaches running 3 on 0 drills, or 5 on 0 drills and it's just so unrealistic that those drills will help these players in a game situation.
Third for me would be ice time. I do believe in development and that you need to be on the ice to get better. You try to get all your lines to play in all situations but at a certain point (normally mid way through 3rd) you have to go with who's rolling or who's better in those situations. Playing a kid 1 shift a period is not going to get him better and he's not going to be prepared for playing late in the 3rd if they haven't seen that situation before.
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After the first couple of years of AAA, you start to learn who the good coaches are. There are not many that are good at communication, on ice ability and have full on passion for the game. You either get the, know it all fat Dinosaur who does the same things as he did 20 years ago, the youngish half Witt ex player with no communication skills/ education or the try hard coach, that never played on a meaningful level, but is great at creating the business side of hockey. Usually on 8-12 place teams and just rakes in money for his hockey school. Toronto is just an over saturated market of coaches without much talent in all the facets. You look at American programs and they are just so much more organized and put way more effort into development. Most of the coaches here, just do the same drills all year hardly ever stop to correct the kids or add progressions. I can count on my hand the coaches skates that i have left and said “ man that coach is top notch, that was a great skate!” Most of the time, I think man that guy did not even talk to my kid , can barely skate but made BANK running a skate with 20 kids at $75 bucks a pops.
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Who are the two best and two worst coaches in the loop in your opinion?Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:20 pm After the first couple of years of AAA, you start to learn who the good coaches are. There are not many that are good at communication, on ice ability and have full on passion for the game. You either get the, know it all fat Dinosaur who does the same things as he did 20 years ago, the youngish half Witt ex player with no communication skills/ education or the try hard coach, that never played on a meaningful level, but is great at creating the business side of hockey. Usually on 8-12 place teams and just rakes in money for his hockey school. Toronto is just an over saturated market of coaches without much talent in all the facets. You look at American programs and they are just so much more organized and put way more effort into development. Most of the coaches here, just do the same drills all year hardly ever stop to correct the kids or add progressions. I can count on my hand the coaches skates that i have left and said “ man that coach is top notch, that was a great skate!” Most of the time, I think man that guy did not even talk to my kid , can barely skate but made BANK running a skate with 20 kids at $75 bucks a pops.
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This asshole thinks he’s Paul MauriceGuest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:17 amI agree that coaching is the most important thing for kids and their development.Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:54 am Coaching is most important ice time is second most
I have coached kids in the past that excelled, made higher level teams and struggled because their new coach couldn't tap in to what made them successful under me.
Next for me would be practice. How you practice is how you play and again it does go back to coaching. Having good practices helps players in games. My philosophy is that in warm ups, you work on your skills (skating, shooting, passing, etc) and then your drills should be set up so that they mimic what kids would see in a game. I have found this to be very successful. So many times, I see coaches running 3 on 0 drills, or 5 on 0 drills and it's just so unrealistic that those drills will help these players in a game situation.
Third for me would be ice time. I do believe in development and that you need to be on the ice to get better. You try to get all your lines to play in all situations but at a certain point (normally mid way through 3rd) you have to go with who's rolling or who's better in those situations. Playing a kid 1 shift a period is not going to get him better and he's not going to be prepared for playing late in the 3rd if they haven't seen that situation before.
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Depends on what you think best and worst means. Most of the coaches are not focused on developing skills. They are just there to win and play the politics of recruiting. That often gets confused with being a good coach just because they have a winning record or a few trophies. However, it is on the parents to find outside skills trainers that can fix your issues. The coaches job during the season is to get buy in to team systems. If they show up on time, treat the kids well and really put an effort into helping the kid grow as a player and person, then they are a good coach.Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:30 pmWho are the two best and two worst coaches in the loop in your opinion?Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:20 pm After the first couple of years of AAA, you start to learn who the good coaches are. There are not many that are good at communication, on ice ability and have full on passion for the game. You either get the, know it all fat Dinosaur who does the same things as he did 20 years ago, the youngish half Witt ex player with no communication skills/ education or the try hard coach, that never played on a meaningful level, but is great at creating the business side of hockey. Usually on 8-12 place teams and just rakes in money for his hockey school. Toronto is just an over saturated market of coaches without much talent in all the facets. You look at American programs and they are just so much more organized and put way more effort into development. Most of the coaches here, just do the same drills all year hardly ever stop to correct the kids or add progressions. I can count on my hand the coaches skates that i have left and said “ man that coach is top notch, that was a great skate!” Most of the time, I think man that guy did not even talk to my kid , can barely skate but made BANK running a skate with 20 kids at $75 bucks a pops.
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Where is he wrong though?Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:48 pmThis asshole thinks he’s Paul MauriceGuest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:17 amI agree that coaching is the most important thing for kids and their development.Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:54 am Coaching is most important ice time is second most
I have coached kids in the past that excelled, made higher level teams and struggled because their new coach couldn't tap in to what made them successful under me.
Next for me would be practice. How you practice is how you play and again it does go back to coaching. Having good practices helps players in games. My philosophy is that in warm ups, you work on your skills (skating, shooting, passing, etc) and then your drills should be set up so that they mimic what kids would see in a game. I have found this to be very successful. So many times, I see coaches running 3 on 0 drills, or 5 on 0 drills and it's just so unrealistic that those drills will help these players in a game situation.
Third for me would be ice time. I do believe in development and that you need to be on the ice to get better. You try to get all your lines to play in all situations but at a certain point (normally mid way through 3rd) you have to go with who's rolling or who's better in those situations. Playing a kid 1 shift a period is not going to get him better and he's not going to be prepared for playing late in the 3rd if they haven't seen that situation before.
I take it you have never coached before or if you have, you have never been successful.
It doesn't take long to figure out who is a good coach or not.