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Guest wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 7:15 am Why the million questions? Did you want the award yourself? Associations and companies give out awards ALL the time and don't need to provide anyone with the reasons. You aren't entitled to an audit of past recipients and/or explanations of the reasons for or against the choice. This is so ridiculous. You don't agree with it fair enough that's your right but it sounds like a crusade at this point.

Guess I touched a nerve. I asked the questions because I would love for my son’s coach to receive this award, not for you to be offended. It’s a shame there is no transparency within the AMHA. And since you don’t want to answer any questions I will ask more - why I am not entitled to know who past recipients of the award were and how long they have been giving this award out? Hiding something……. I wonder how the Dinsmore family feels about this?

Did you go to the AMHA AGM meeting last week? My guess is probably not. You can't have it both ways in life. You want transparency than you could have gone to the meeting and had the transparency but like most sideline parents they don't actually want to put in the work and time that it takes to volunteer they just want to moan and groan about how it could be done better. Step up and volunteer your time or stop complaining about those that literally take one for the team- year after year

take one for the team? if you're talking about MM, you're full of shyte. He doesn't take one for the team, the team takes one in the cullo for him. That man is the most self serving, narcissistic man I have ever met. The ONLY reason he takes that team is so his son can play AA hockey. Most dedicated? The only thing that man is dedicated to is ruining hockey for children one kid at a time.
To the other point, yes i do volunteer, for multiple sports organizations as well as charity groups, so take your high and mighty attitude and shove it straight up your arse. I think we have all had enough of you C OR BY coming on here and defending your bum buddy.

Wow all of those multiple sports organizations and charities you volunteer for must be thrilled to have someone who speaks with such class serve them. I bet you have won so many awards yourself Let the others who can actually articulate their views with intelligence and class speak for you. The loudest ones are always the ones compensating for attributes they were not blessed with themselves.

I have no problem speaking with class, but you don’t deserve the effort. If you’d like to speak about my volunteer efforts, leave a name and number and I’ll be happy for forward you the contact information for those organizations. As for awards, some of us do things quietly, not for awards or accreditation, but just to help where it’s needed. I've had all I can take reading your nonsense. You come on here endorsing a coach who does things to kids that could be considered criminal. You sing his praises, give him awards, for what? To cover up all the complaints and terrible reviews he receives from paying parents. Seriously C OR By enough is enough already.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:36 am

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 12:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 7:15 am Why the million questions? Did you want the award yourself? Associations and companies give out awards ALL the time and don't need to provide anyone with the reasons. You aren't entitled to an audit of past recipients and/or explanations of the reasons for or against the choice. This is so ridiculous. You don't agree with it fair enough that's your right but it sounds like a crusade at this point.

Guess I touched a nerve. I asked the questions because I would love for my son’s coach to receive this award, not for you to be offended. It’s a shame there is no transparency within the AMHA. And since you don’t want to answer any questions I will ask more - why I am not entitled to know who past recipients of the award were and how long they have been giving this award out? Hiding something……. I wonder how the Dinsmore family feels about this?

Did you go to the AMHA AGM meeting last week? My guess is probably not. You can't have it both ways in life. You want transparency than you could have gone to the meeting and had the transparency but like most sideline parents they don't actually want to put in the work and time that it takes to volunteer they just want to moan and groan about how it could be done better. Step up and volunteer your time or stop complaining about those that literally take one for the team- year after year

take one for the team? if you're talking about MM, you're full of shyte. He doesn't take one for the team, the team takes one in the cullo for him. That man is the most self serving, narcissistic man I have ever met. The ONLY reason he takes that team is so his son can play AA hockey. Most dedicated? The only thing that man is dedicated to is ruining hockey for children one kid at a time.
To the other point, yes i do volunteer, for multiple sports organizations as well as charity groups, so take your high and mighty attitude and shove it straight up your arse. I think we have all had enough of you C OR BY coming on here and defending your bum buddy.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 2:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:36 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:23 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 12:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 7:15 am Why the million questions? Did you want the award yourself? Associations and companies give out awards ALL the time and don't need to provide anyone with the reasons. You aren't entitled to an audit of past recipients and/or explanations of the reasons for or against the choice. This is so ridiculous. You don't agree with it fair enough that's your right but it sounds like a crusade at this point.

Guess I touched a nerve. I asked the questions because I would love for my son’s coach to receive this award, not for you to be offended. It’s a shame there is no transparency within the AMHA. And since you don’t want to answer any questions I will ask more - why I am not entitled to know who past recipients of the award were and how long they have been giving this award out? Hiding something……. I wonder how the Dinsmore family feels about this?

Did you go to the AMHA AGM meeting last week? My guess is probably not. You can't have it both ways in life. You want transparency than you could have gone to the meeting and had the transparency but like most sideline parents they don't actually want to put in the work and time that it takes to volunteer they just want to moan and groan about how it could be done better. Step up and volunteer your time or stop complaining about those that literally take one for the team- year after year

take one for the team? if you're talking about MM, you're full of shyte. He doesn't take one for the team, the team takes one in the cullo for him. That man is the most self serving, narcissistic man I have ever met. The ONLY reason he takes that team is so his son can play AA hockey. Most dedicated? The only thing that man is dedicated to is ruining hockey for children one kid at a time.
To the other point, yes i do volunteer, for multiple sports organizations as well as charity groups, so take your high and mighty attitude and shove it straight up your arse. I think we have all had enough of you C OR BY coming on here and defending your bum buddy.

I also was at the AGM and I volunteer every year for the association and other associations. Nice try though.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 2:14 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 2:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:36 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:23 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 12:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 7:15 am Why the million questions? Did you want the award yourself? Associations and companies give out awards ALL the time and don't need to provide anyone with the reasons. You aren't entitled to an audit of past recipients and/or explanations of the reasons for or against the choice. This is so ridiculous. You don't agree with it fair enough that's your right but it sounds like a crusade at this point.

Guess I touched a nerve. I asked the questions because I would love for my son’s coach to receive this award, not for you to be offended. It’s a shame there is no transparency within the AMHA. And since you don’t want to answer any questions I will ask more - why I am not entitled to know who past recipients of the award were and how long they have been giving this award out? Hiding something……. I wonder how the Dinsmore family feels about this?

Did you go to the AMHA AGM meeting last week? My guess is probably not. You can't have it both ways in life. You want transparency than you could have gone to the meeting and had the transparency but like most sideline parents they don't actually want to put in the work and time that it takes to volunteer they just want to moan and groan about how it could be done better. Step up and volunteer your time or stop complaining about those that literally take one for the team- year after year

take one for the team? if you're talking about MM, you're full of shyte. He doesn't take one for the team, the team takes one in the cullo for him. That man is the most self serving, narcissistic man I have ever met. The ONLY reason he takes that team is so his son can play AA hockey. Most dedicated? The only thing that man is dedicated to is ruining hockey for children one kid at a time.
To the other point, yes i do volunteer, for multiple sports organizations as well as charity groups, so take your high and mighty attitude and shove it straight up your arse. I think we have all had enough of you C OR BY coming on here and defending your bum buddy.

I also was at the AGM and I volunteer every year for the association and other associations. Nice try though.

Anymore questions as you try to figure out we are? Or could you just give us some background on the Bill Dinsmore Award?

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 12:19 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 1:56 pm Does anyone have information on how the Open Borders affected each team? It would be interesting to see the breakdown by team.

The U9MD --> U10AA team had 3 kids make YSE, 7 kids return, 4 kids cut to A and 2 kids left for Stouffville. 9 New Players out of 16.

The U11AA --> U12AA team had 0 kids make AAA, 7 kids left, 2 assistant coaches quit, star goalie left, and 5 Aurora A kids moved up including 2 A goalies. Considering how much the other teams in the division improved, it would be hard to do worse than last year, but this team will find a way to do worse. Coaching & development is atrocious to non-existent.

The U11A -- U12A team only retained 3 kids, a couple moved up, lots of upperyork B kids will improve this team. Assistant coach from upperyork can only improve the coaching & development from last season. Heard a rumor going around that someone from AMHA had a hand in cutting majority of Aurora A kids to ensure they fill the B team. Hope that's not true.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 4:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 12:19 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 1:56 pm Does anyone have information on how the Open Borders affected each team? It would be interesting to see the breakdown by team.

The U9MD --> U10AA team had 3 kids make YSE, 7 kids return, 4 kids cut to A and 2 kids left for Stouffville. 9 New Players out of 16.

The U11AA --> U12AA team had 0 kids make AAA, 7 kids left, 2 assistant coaches quit, star goalie left, and 5 Aurora A kids moved up including 2 A goalies. Considering how much the other teams in the division improved, it would be hard to do worse than last year, but this team will find a way to do worse. Coaching & development is atrocious to non-existent.

The U11A -- U12A team only retained 3 kids, a couple moved up, lots of upperyork B kids will improve this team. Assistant coach from upperyork can only improve the coaching & development from last season. Heard a rumor going around that someone from AMHA had a hand in cutting majority of Aurora A kids to ensure they fill the B team. Hope that's not true.

The narrative surrounding the 2024–2025 U11AA to U12AA transition, as referenced in the post above, only tells part of the story.
The 2024–2025 U11AA team welcomed six players from the U10A team to replace several players who moved on to various AAA programs. Unfortunately, the U10A team’s coaching was widely regarded as abysmal, with a reputation for inconsistency and favoritism that severely stunted the players’ development. The U10A coach, like many volunteer coaches in the AMHA, prioritized his own child’s success, securing them disproportionate power-play time, penalty-kill shifts, and extra ice time. This self-serving approach left the rest of the team neglected, resulting in players who were woefully unprepared for the jump to AA. By the end of the U10A season, most players lacked not only the necessary skills but also a grasp of basic fundamentals—many didn’t even understand the offside rule.

When these players transitioned to the U11AA team for the 2024–2025 season, all but one or two struggled to adapt to the faster, more demanding AA level, arriving with significant gaps in both skill and hockey IQ. The U11AA coaches inherited a challenging situation but worked tirelessly to bridge these deficits. They organized extra conditioning sessions at a local gym and secured additional ice time whenever possible. The team’s struggles were not due to their efforts but rather the inadequate foundation laid by the U10A coach.
As a result of these challenges, the U11AA to U12AA transition saw seven players leave the team, with four returning to A-level hockey after failing to secure spots on AA teams elsewhere. This situation highlights two persistent issues:

Inconsistent Parent Coaches: As long as AMHA relies on volunteer parent coaches, inconsistent coaching quality and favoritism will continue to undermine player development. The U10A coach’s poor reputation and self-interested approach are a prime example, leaving players ill-equipped for higher levels.

Delusional Parents: Too often, parents overestimate their children’s abilities, convinced their child is destined for elite hockey. The most vocal parents frequently harbor the most unrealistic expectations. For instance, despite their children’s struggles at the AA level, several U11AA players tried out for AAA teams, only to fall short—a clear sign of inflated perceptions.
While coaching inconsistencies, like those exemplified by the U10A coach, play a significant role, the larger issue often lies with parents who fail to assess their children’s abilities realistically. Until AMHA addresses the variability in volunteer coaching and parents adopt a more grounded perspective, these challenges will continue to hinder player development.

All very valid points. The coaching inconsistencies is a challenge for all sports across the board. Unfortunately there seems to be fewer and fewer parents that are willing and/or able to volunteer their time and make that level of a commitment to a team so associations are left with a tough situation - take a willing but inexperienced parent to coach a team or risk having a team without a coach. It's unfortunate and unfair to the kids in both situations. The parent problem of having unrealistic ideas of their kids abilities is only getting worse unfortunately and is usually driven by their own ego amd desire to achieve what they themselves did not or weren't given the chance to.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:39 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 4:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 12:19 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 1:56 pm Does anyone have information on how the Open Borders affected each team? It would be interesting to see the breakdown by team.

The U9MD --> U10AA team had 3 kids make YSE, 7 kids return, 4 kids cut to A and 2 kids left for Stouffville. 9 New Players out of 16.

The U11AA --> U12AA team had 0 kids make AAA, 7 kids left, 2 assistant coaches quit, star goalie left, and 5 Aurora A kids moved up including 2 A goalies. Considering how much the other teams in the division improved, it would be hard to do worse than last year, but this team will find a way to do worse. Coaching & development is atrocious to non-existent.

The U11A -- U12A team only retained 3 kids, a couple moved up, lots of upperyork B kids will improve this team. Assistant coach from upperyork can only improve the coaching & development from last season. Heard a rumor going around that someone from AMHA had a hand in cutting majority of Aurora A kids to ensure they fill the B team. Hope that's not true.

The narrative surrounding the 2024–2025 U11AA to U12AA transition, as referenced in the post above, only tells part of the story.
The 2024–2025 U11AA team welcomed six players from the U10A team to replace several players who moved on to various AAA programs. Unfortunately, the U10A team’s coaching was widely regarded as abysmal, with a reputation for inconsistency and favoritism that severely stunted the players’ development. The U10A coach, like many volunteer coaches in the AMHA, prioritized his own child’s success, securing them disproportionate power-play time, penalty-kill shifts, and extra ice time. This self-serving approach left the rest of the team neglected, resulting in players who were woefully unprepared for the jump to AA. By the end of the U10A season, most players lacked not only the necessary skills but also a grasp of basic fundamentals—many didn’t even understand the offside rule.

When these players transitioned to the U11AA team for the 2024–2025 season, all but one or two struggled to adapt to the faster, more demanding AA level, arriving with significant gaps in both skill and hockey IQ. The U11AA coaches inherited a challenging situation but worked tirelessly to bridge these deficits. They organized extra conditioning sessions at a local gym and secured additional ice time whenever possible. The team’s struggles were not due to their efforts but rather the inadequate foundation laid by the U10A coach.
As a result of these challenges, the U11AA to U12AA transition saw seven players leave the team, with four returning to A-level hockey after failing to secure spots on AA teams elsewhere. This situation highlights two persistent issues:

Inconsistent Parent Coaches: As long as AMHA relies on volunteer parent coaches, inconsistent coaching quality and favoritism will continue to undermine player development. The U10A coach’s poor reputation and self-interested approach are a prime example, leaving players ill-equipped for higher levels.

Delusional Parents: Too often, parents overestimate their children’s abilities, convinced their child is destined for elite hockey. The most vocal parents frequently harbor the most unrealistic expectations. For instance, despite their children’s struggles at the AA level, several U11AA players tried out for AAA teams, only to fall short—a clear sign of inflated perceptions.
While coaching inconsistencies, like those exemplified by the U10A coach, play a significant role, the larger issue often lies with parents

All very valid points. The coaching inconsistencies is a challenge for all sports across the board. Unfortunately there seems to be fewer and fewer parents that are willing and/or able to volunteer their time and make that level of a commitment to a team so associations are left with a tough situation - take a willing but inexperienced parent to coach a team or risk having a team without a coach. It's unfortunate and unfair to the kids in both situations. The parent problem of having unrealistic ideas of their kids abilities is only getting worse unfortunately and is usually driven by their own ego amd desire to achieve what they themselves did not or weren't given the chance to.